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		<title>Tanya Plibersek &#8211; Replied</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS IS NOT ABOUT TELSTRA

Point to ponder:  
Maybe the Government doesn&#8217;t want to change the law to grant homosexual people equal discrimination rights, because if we were able to make complaints under any discrimination category (rather than just employment), we could then complain to the Australian Human Rights Commision that our human rights have been [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><span style="color: #1d93d0;">THIS IS NOT ABOUT TELSTRA</span></h3>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Point to ponder: </strong> </p>
<p>Maybe the Government doesn&#8217;t want to change the law to grant homosexual people equal discrimination rights, because if <em>we</em> were able to make complaints under any discrimination category (rather than just employment), <em>we</em> could then complain to the Australian Human Rights Commision that <em>our</em> human rights have been <strong>violated</strong> by the Australian Government itself.<br />
Being denied the ability to Marry because of where you are positioned in a social demographic, is a denial of personal liberty and an intentional thwarting of the potential for one&#8217;s own individual happiness.</p></blockquote>
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<p>When I discovered that the Australian Human Rights Commission would not hear any sexual preference discrimination complaints (other than employment complaints), <a title="Letter to Tanya Plibersek" href="http://www.engayment.org/sent/letter-to-tanya-plibersek/">I wrote the Minister Tanya Plibersek a Letter.</a></p>
<p>I was stupid, in that I mentioned the Telstra Ad that had spurred me to look into making a complaint when I wrote the letter, and of course, this is what <a title="See for yourself" href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=Telstra+Homophobic&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=" target="_blank">The World</a> and Tanya focused on. </p>
<p>I asked Tanya to explain to me why there was a discrepancy at <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au">www.humanrights.gov.au</a> surrounding sexual preference discrimination. Tanya had assured me in person a few weeks earlier that there were <strong>NO DIFFERENCES</strong> between Homosexual people and Heterosexual People in terms of Government Policy (Apart from Marriage). So I was shocked and confused to find this discrepancy on their website.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">My issue is that the Australian Human Rights Commission <strong>WILL NOT</strong> handle a complaint made about Sexual Preference Discrimination (Unless it is specific to Employment, and </span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>only</strong></span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> employment).</span></p>
<h5><span style="color: #1d93d0;">Why can&#8217;t they handle sexual preference complaints?</span></h5>
<blockquote><p>Because it&#8217;s the Law.</p></blockquote>
<h5><span style="color: #1d93d0;">Who can change the Law?</span></h5>
<blockquote><p>Politicians.</p></blockquote>
<h5><span style="color: #1d93d0;">Who is a politican?</span></h5>
<blockquote><p>Tanya Plibersek.</p></blockquote>
<h5><span style="color: #1d93d0;">What does Tanya Plibersek say about the fact that the Australian Human Rights Commission is bound by a discriminatory law that has supposed to have been fixed?</span></h5>
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<blockquote><p>Dear Andrew, </p>
<p>Thank you for emailing me with your concerns about the Human Rights Commission’s scope for responding to discrimination based on sexual preference.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>While I share your opposition to discriminatory advertising, the ability of the Human Rights Commission to respond to complaints is governed by acts of parliament, in this case the <em>Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986</em>. Advertising is not a jurisdiction covered by any of the four Acts administered by the Commission – including sex, race and disability.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I would recommend you take up your complaint with the Australian Communications and Media Authority (<a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/" target="_blank">www.acma.gov.au</a>) since they are the appropriate body to represent your interests in this case.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Thank you again for emailing me, I appreciate you raising your concerns with me.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Tanya<br />
<strong>The Hon Tanya Plibersek MP<br />
<span style="font-weight: normal; ">Federal Member for Sydney</span></strong></p></blockquote>
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<p>Because I was stupid enough to preface my letter by mentioning Telstra, Tanya went on to give me advice on how to complain about the Telstra Commercial. I really wish I had not mentioned it, because it subsequently meant that Tanya did not answer my question as to <strong>WHY</strong> the Australian Human Rights Commission is not legally capable of handling Sexual Preference Discrimination complaints that fall outside of the realm of Employment Issues.</p>
<h3><span style="color: #1d93d0;">I want to know why this law has not been changed?</span></h3>
<p>I will have to respond and ask Tanya again.<br />
 <br />
If you choose to comment on this Article, do me, the world, and yourself a favour, and don&#8217;t mention Telstra or their stupid Ad.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center;"><strong>THIS IS NOT ABOUT TELSTRA</strong></h2>
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		<title>Letter to Tanya Plibersek.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tanya Plibersek - the Minister for Housing and the Status of Women, also the Federal Member for Sydney, told me in person that the Rudd Government had eradicated all human rights violations surrounding the treatment of homosexual people in Australia. She was wrong, evidenced by the recent complaint rejection I received from www.humanrights.gov.au, the Australian Federal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://" target="_blank">Tanya Plibersek</a> - the Minister for Housing and the Status of Women, also the Federal Member for Sydney, told me in person that the Rudd Government had eradicated all human rights violations surrounding the treatment of homosexual people in Australia. <strong>She was wrong</strong>, <a href="http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/#content">evidenced by the recent complaint rejection</a> I received from <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au" target="_blank">www.humanrights.gov.au</a>, the Australian Federal Government department tasked with handling discrimination complaints.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve sent <a href="http://www.alp.org.au/people/plibersek_tanya.php" target="_blank">Tanya Plibersek</a> an email via the <a href="http://www.alp.org.au/people/email/plibersek_tanya.php" target="_blank">ALP website contact form</a>, here it is:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Hi Tanya, </p>
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<p>We met at the most recent Glebe Fair day and we had a great discussion about Same Sex Marriage.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>You indicated to me that the Rudd Government has systematically eradicated all human rights issues surrounding homosexuality.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Telstra has launched a campaign where they have advertised their next generation mobile content in an advertisement that is quite discriminatory to homosexual people.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>When I&#8217;ve tried to complain to humanrights.gov.au about the above-mentioned advertisement, they have advised they can only assist with sexual preference discrimination if it is to do with employment.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>This is unacceptable. Sexual preference discrimination should be treated the same as any other kind of discrimination, including gender, age, and ethnicity discrimination.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The reason I&#8217;m contacting you is because you told me that these issues had been addressed and eradicated, yet a federal government department that deals with human rights and discrimination is itself, discriminating against homosexual individuals by only accepting sexual preference discrimination complaints if they are to do with employment.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>How can we feel as though we are treated the same, if the government department which is responsible for assisting in the eradication of discrimination, discriminates against an entire demographic of people?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Please respond as soon as possible.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>For your reference I have attached the <a href="http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/">response I received from</a> Karen.toohey@humanrights.gov.au.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Andrew James.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I will post Tanya&#8217;s response, as soon as I get it.</p>
<p>If you wish to send Tanya Plibersek a letter, you can do so here : <br />
<a href="http://www.alp.org.au/people/email/plibersek_tanya.php" target="_blank">ALP website contact Tanya Plibersek form</a></p>
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		<title>Tanya Plibersek</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Honourable Tanya Plibersek,
Member of Parliament.
She&#8217;s lovely, but she can&#8217;t help us&#8230; Yet.
Minister for Housing; Minister for the Status of Women.
Last week, I had the pleasure of meeting this extraordinary woman. It was the annual Glebe fair, and Tanya and our local member (both members of the Australian Labor Party) had set up a Labor stand on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>The Honourable Tanya Plibersek,<br />
Member of Parliament.</h3>
<h4>She&#8217;s lovely, but she can&#8217;t help us&#8230; Yet.</h4>
<p><a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/member.asp?id=83M" target="_blank"><img class="size-medium wp-image-35 alignleft" title="The Hon Tanya Plibersek MP" src="http://www.engayment.org/wp-content/uploads/0000/00/tanyaplibersek2-195x300.jpg" alt="The Hon Tanya Plibersek MP" width="195" height="300" /></a><em>Minister for Housing; Minister for the Status of Women.</em></p>
<p>Last week, I had the pleasure of meeting this extraordinary woman. It was the annual Glebe fair, and Tanya and our local member (both members of the Australian Labor Party) had set up a Labor stand on the street, and were generously answering questions all day. Now I have to be honest, I&#8217;ve seen this lady on TV, in fact, I watched her with awe as she verbally annihilated Joe Hockey on channel Seven the night that Kevin Rudd won the Federal Election. She smiled, she laughed, and when Kevin Rudd gave his victory speech, she cried. She is, if ever there was, an honest and down to earth Member of Parliament.</p>
<p>So what did I do? </p>
<p><strong>I asked her about Gay Marriage.</strong></p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s important to mention that from my discussions with Tanya, I&#8217;m convinced that she supports the notion of Gay Marriage. She indicated that she had been the MC at her gay friends commitment ceremony, and that she has a long history (being the ALP&#8217;s member for Sydney) of being positive and supportive to the gay community.</p>
<p>That said, my issue is not then with Tanya Plibersek the lovely lady I met in Glebe that day, My issue is with the Honourable Tanya Plibersek, Minister for Housing and Minister for the status of Women. <em><strong>Side note: Women and their status get a minister? But gay people don&#8217;t? Okay</strong></em></p>
<p>Anyway, she pointed out to Kyle and I that as Gay men, we should be proud of how far the Rudd Government has progressed in removing a number of discriminatory policies and laws that in the past made our partnership basically null and void. She went on to tell me that as Defacto&#8217;s we have the exact same rights and protections as any Married Couple. I was grateful and indicated my pleasure at these facts, but I asked again, <strong>&#8220;But what about Gay Marriage?&#8221; </strong>She then pulled a face not entirely dissimilar to this one: <a href="http://www.engayment.org/wp-content/uploads/0000/00/tanyaplibersek3.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-42" title="Tanya, not looking happy." src="http://www.engayment.org/wp-content/uploads/0000/00/tanyaplibersek3.jpg" alt="Tanya, not looking happy." width="172" height="239" /></a></p>
<p>But it only lasted a second. Then she went back to smiling (and its a beautiful smile) and she reminded me that a few years ago, gay people were getting bashed in the streets. That we have come a LONG way, and that I should remember where I come from.</p>
<p>I asked again, what her policy was on Gay Marriage.</p>
<p>She told me not to get caught up on the word, and that if my relationship was meaningful that should be all that counts. &#8220;Marriage is just a word&#8221; &#8211; Well, if it is just a word, then why wont you let us use it?</p>
<p>She admitted, that whilst her personal opinion may differ, &#8220;I<strong>t is not Labors Policy to support Gay Marriage.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Oh, no. Well, if Labor is the left wing party (not taking into account the greens), and not even the left wing party of Australia is willing to make it law that any Australian be entitled to Marriage, then who the hell is going to fight for us? Certainly not the right wing and conservative Australian Liberal Party.</p>
<p>So, basically, we are screwed.</p>
<p>As nice as Tanya is, and I mean it, she <strong>really</strong> is nice, I was so depressed to hear her tell me that it was not ALP policy to support Gay Marriage.</p>
<p>So, this is a rant. I&#8217;m going to write her a letter and I will post it when I&#8217;m done. If you feel like writing her a letter, please do! She will probably tell you the same thing she told me, but it can&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p>The Hon Tanya Plibersek, Suite M1 45 Parliament House Canberra ACT 2600<br />
Ministerial Office  Suite 4&amp;5, Level 10 Commonwealth Parliamentary Offices 70 Phillip St Sydney NSW 2000<br />
Sydney Electorate Office  422 Crown Street Surry Hills, NSW, 2010</p>
<p>Or email her <a title="Email Tanya Plibersek" href="http://www.alp.org.au/people/email/plibersek_tanya.php" target="_blank">here</a></p>
<p>By the way, if you ever get a chance to meet Tanya Plibersek in person, do me a favour and compliment her on her smile. I wish I had when I met her, she really does have a killer smile.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engayment.org/wp-content/uploads/0000/00/tanya_plibersek_big.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-45" title="Tanya Plibersek Smiling" src="http://www.engayment.org/wp-content/uploads/0000/00/tanya_plibersek_big-300x225.jpg" alt="Tanya Plibersek Smiling" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
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