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	<title>Comments on: Humanrights.gov.au &#8211; Response</title>
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		<title>By: Limbic</title>
		<link>http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Limbic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god no wonder there are people out there that hate gays and anything to do with us. With people like you creating a storm in a teacup about such irrelevant little things like a TV commercial - for christ&#039;s sake get a sense of humour.

Yes, I am gay and proud of it, but I do not need people like you giving more people ammunition to go out and &quot;poofter bash&quot; and all the other abhorrent things that happen to innocents like us, trying to just go about our lives peacefully.

If you want your fifteen minutes of fame, please do it in a way that doesn&#039;t affect the majority of us and as I said before &quot;get a sense of humour !&quot;

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Response from andrew@engayment.org
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Can you read? If you could read, you&#039;d have read what I wrote about the nature of my complaint. I&#039;m guessing you &lt;strong&gt;can &lt;/strong&gt;read, but you chose &lt;strong&gt;not to read &lt;/strong&gt;my post before commenting. Why? because you are angry about what has happened (so am I). 
Stop and think for a second, and try to understand the motivations of the people who WROTE the article that brought you to this site. Do you think they wrote it to make me look good? Or bad?

If I was after fame, I&#039;d have agreed to the Today Tonight interview (and the many radio segment interviews) that were requested of me on Tuesday. I didn&#039;t agree to them. I sat on this blog, and read all of the homophobic abuse that was sent to me instead. I then sat down and wrote out a very detailed articulation of my position (which you didn&#039;t read) to try to make sure people like you, gay people, don&#039;t continue to come on here and abuse me.

Answer me this: Are you okay with HREOC&#039;s policy surrounding Sexual Preference Discrimination in Australia? Do you even know what their policy is?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god no wonder there are people out there that hate gays and anything to do with us. With people like you creating a storm in a teacup about such irrelevant little things like a TV commercial &#8211; for christ&#8217;s sake get a sense of humour.</p>
<p>Yes, I am gay and proud of it, but I do not need people like you giving more people ammunition to go out and &#8220;poofter bash&#8221; and all the other abhorrent things that happen to innocents like us, trying to just go about our lives peacefully.</p>
<p>If you want your fifteen minutes of fame, please do it in a way that doesn&#8217;t affect the majority of us and as I said before &#8220;get a sense of humour !&#8221;</p>
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Response from <a href="mailto:andrew@engayment.org">andrew@engayment.org</a></p>
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Can you read? If you could read, you&#8217;d have read what I wrote about the nature of my complaint. I&#8217;m guessing you <strong>can </strong>read, but you chose <strong>not to read </strong>my post before commenting. Why? because you are angry about what has happened (so am I).<br />
Stop and think for a second, and try to understand the motivations of the people who WROTE the article that brought you to this site. Do you think they wrote it to make me look good? Or bad?</p>
<p>If I was after fame, I&#8217;d have agreed to the Today Tonight interview (and the many radio segment interviews) that were requested of me on Tuesday. I didn&#8217;t agree to them. I sat on this blog, and read all of the homophobic abuse that was sent to me instead. I then sat down and wrote out a very detailed articulation of my position (which you didn&#8217;t read) to try to make sure people like you, gay people, don&#8217;t continue to come on here and abuse me.</p>
<p>Answer me this: Are you okay with HREOC&#8217;s policy surrounding Sexual Preference Discrimination in Australia? Do you even know what their policy is?</p>
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		<title>By: Mihai Bucur</title>
		<link>http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihai Bucur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

You&#039;re wrong in blaming the Australian Human Rights Commission for this. Federal anti-discrimination laws in Australia currently only protect against sexual orientation in employment. While this may be discriminatory, it is now the AHRC&#039;s fault, but rather the Parliament&#039;s fault, as Karen Toohey rightly pointed out. A federal agency is essentially a bureaucracy, meaning it is obliged to respect the content of the law. It can&#039;t simply make up new law as it chooses.

The Rudd Government stated its intention to introduce a more comprehensive anti-discrimination law covering sexual orientation and gender identity in the next year. This would equalise the ground of sexual orientation with that of race and sex.

Please also note that there are state laws which cover a wider range of discrimination grounds. In New South Wales, for example, sexual orientation discrimination is illegal not only in employment, but also in the provision of goods and services, education, vilification, etc. This is equal to provisions relating to race, sex and religion. Similar laws are present in nearly all Australian states. Thus, you can make a complaint to the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board if you feel you have been discriminated on the basis of sexual orientation. The link is http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/ADB

But please, explore your options more deeply before kicking up a stink about this. Unfairly blaming the AHRC, an organisation which played a hugely beneficial role in gay law reform, will do nothing to advance your cause or the cause of LGBT equality more generally. Indeed, it trivialises more serious forms of discrimination against LGBT people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong in blaming the Australian Human Rights Commission for this. Federal anti-discrimination laws in Australia currently only protect against sexual orientation in employment. While this may be discriminatory, it is now the AHRC&#8217;s fault, but rather the Parliament&#8217;s fault, as Karen Toohey rightly pointed out. A federal agency is essentially a bureaucracy, meaning it is obliged to respect the content of the law. It can&#8217;t simply make up new law as it chooses.</p>
<p>The Rudd Government stated its intention to introduce a more comprehensive anti-discrimination law covering sexual orientation and gender identity in the next year. This would equalise the ground of sexual orientation with that of race and sex.</p>
<p>Please also note that there are state laws which cover a wider range of discrimination grounds. In New South Wales, for example, sexual orientation discrimination is illegal not only in employment, but also in the provision of goods and services, education, vilification, etc. This is equal to provisions relating to race, sex and religion. Similar laws are present in nearly all Australian states. Thus, you can make a complaint to the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board if you feel you have been discriminated on the basis of sexual orientation. The link is <a href="http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/ADB" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/ADB</a></p>
<p>But please, explore your options more deeply before kicking up a stink about this. Unfairly blaming the AHRC, an organisation which played a hugely beneficial role in gay law reform, will do nothing to advance your cause or the cause of LGBT equality more generally. Indeed, it trivialises more serious forms of discrimination against LGBT people.</p>
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		<title>By: Letter to Tanya Plibersek &#124; Engayment.org</title>
		<link>http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Letter to Tanya Plibersek &#124; Engayment.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] human rights violations surrounding the treatment of homosexual people in Australia. She was wrong, evidenced by the recent complaint rejection I received from www.humanrights.gov.au, the Australian Federal Government department tasked with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] human rights violations surrounding the treatment of homosexual people in Australia. She was wrong, evidenced by the recent complaint rejection I received from <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanrights.gov.au</a>, the Australian Federal Government department tasked with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Homophobic Telstra Advertisement &#124; Engayment.org</title>
		<link>http://www.engayment.org/received/negativeresponse/humanrightsgovau-response/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Homophobic Telstra Advertisement &#124; Engayment.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update 12:09pm 11 December 2008: Karen from www.humanrights.gov.au responded to my complaint - view it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update 12:09pm 11 December 2008: Karen from <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanrights.gov.au</a> responded to my complaint &#8211; view it here. [...]</p>
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